Involving Genetics in Litters?

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Well, I come from another site, and over there they're really big on genetics for litters and such. I was wondering if you guys have anything like that over here. I'm training in genetics too, so if there isn't, and people are interested in incorporating it here, I could gladly help! It would make for a more realistic RP, in my opinion.

Actually, there isn't a need of having a Genetic Team. We members can help to control how our kits look. And please don't put names or even initials of other sites please. Thanks!

Okay, sorry.

But what do you mean by the members controlling how the kits look? This genetics thing is completely optional.

Werepyer... I don't really get this thing... could you explain it to me?

Is this about like for example...

A black tom and a black-she-cat are mates. They have a kit. So if its genetic, the kit should be black/white or black-and-white right? Is this what you mean?

Please call me Werepyre or Pyro. I had a small problem with my username...
Well, no. This isn't like Mendel's peas. Those had co-dominance, a trait common in dogs. Cats are completely different.

The white pelt of the she-cat is caused by the white masking gene, which covers her pelt color. The black pelt of the tom is caused by...him inheriting at least one allele for black from his parents, and at least one dense[makes pelt darker] allele from his parents.
Let's say that the queen was a white masking black, to make it simple. Then you would make it a black x black litter, but you would also add the option of white. If they were heterozygous for both density and black, then it would be a bit like this:
--- BD ---- bd [please ignore the dashes, I couldn't get the spacing to work...]
BD BBDD BbDd
bd BBDd bbdd

BBDD=Black
BBDd=black
BbDd=black
bbdd=lilac

So the litter possibilities would be:
Black, Lilac, White.

There are many more things than that, but that's the most basic gist there is. Is there any other questions?

Well I understand now. What is the point of this topic? To ask whether we ever thought of this idea? We could include that in the forum but it'll be optional. And its pretty confusing too because many members here can be as young as 8 or 9 so this would be pretty complicated ^-^

Well, this is an optional thing. Members don't need to do it. It's just like how members here don't need to make their cats COMPLETELY realistic, as I have figured out. The rules on reality here are a tad bit relaxed, so I know that some people will not want this. I'm just wondering if you would like this idea, if you think that this will work here. That's all. It's but a suggestion.

I like the idea, just saying

I think this is a good idea, Werepyre! A little confusing, but a fine idea. And in everyone's character sheet, they could also add whether they are heterozygous or homozygous.

Ex. heterozygous ginger she-cat with green eyes

Well, I think that that would truly confuse some people because the red locus is different than the black locus, and so forth. Also, if a cat is heterozygous for black, then there are a multitude of complexities that will just make it too confusing. This is because there are numerous alleles on the black locus.
If a person does a full genotype for someone's character, then yes, that would be entirely possible, and would make everyone less confused. The only problem is that sometimes takes a lot of work. If we can make genotypes for everybody, then your idea could work.

Thank you for your support though!

Oh, and thank you whoever changed my username! I really appreciate it very much.

I also think this is a good idea, Werepyre! I was a little bemused when I saw this at first, but after reading through your explainations, I think I get it. This could take some wrok, but it's an interesting idea.

Oh, that was probably Phoenixwing that changed your username.

Okay, thank you!

Oh, and Madhu, I'm working on your thing.

I'm confused, how abot we make it as simple as this
black cat x white cat = black and white cat
white cat x white cat = Snowlily

I like the Idea and I love Genetics but there are some members here that don't know/understand what they are, or how to use them. (And some probably don't want to learn until they have too...) I think we would be fine if we just keep it realist. It would be a lot more simple any way.

All I can say is am so cofused.

@Stormheart
the realistic way is through genetics..

I like the idea. I'm a complete nerd, trust me, so I understand what your going on about. But how would we get the thing working? It would be a FABULOUS idea if you or an admin could get the program working, and easy to use for 'not so willing' members.

Yeah, I was thinking that some people could train in genetics and people would ask them what the possibilities for their litters could be and that would be it. It's worked effectively before on a MUCH larger scale, so why won't it work on a smaller scale? Our at least that's what I think. I'm just a nerd who's a stickler for the rules and realism and stuff.

I'd like to change my vote. Could you edit the topic so that I can change my vote?

I vote nay. I don't like the idea, because then you can't make the kits unique. I mean, if you're reading warriors, I don't think everything in that is true with real cats, so why should this be real? Then most kits couldn't have blue eyes without at least one eye being blind, which is a favorite eye color, or have purple eyes, as they're rare. I mean, this might ruine the fun of making your cats and/or kits. Warriors aren't fully realistic, so why should they be in this?
That's my opinion.

Werepyre wrote:@Stormheart
the realistic way is through genetics..

-.-` What I meant, you can keep it realistic with out them. You can tell the difference between a nonrealistic litter and one that makes sense.

Ex. A Black cat+ White cat= Dark Ginger tom with Strange red eyes. (Thats not the realist, but I know this Without using genetics.)

Ex (2). Black cat+white cat= Black cat, White cat, or black and white cat. (Realistic with out genetics...)